I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, Wish. Really. But if having three 85 OPS+ glovey OF's and gaining the offense elsewhere was a recipe for the playoffs then it sould have been done more often. DiPoto isn't THAT smart.
Seager just had his career year. Segura just had his, by a mile. Cruz just had his 2nd best year ever. His best was in '15. Cano just hit a career high in HR's. I would suggest there is more room for some drop-off than there is for improvement (or maintenance), from those 4. I'm most confident that Seager doesn't drop much. I am least confient that Segura stays where he was last year. But he does give us a general offensive gain even with a drop-off.
OK, I will leave the Haniger thing alone. Promise. Well, mostly. :) I really like the kid. I think there is a decent to better chance that he is that 100-ish OPS+ bat.
But if he's not, we're going to lament the lack of offense from our OF, unless Gamel rips. Or Tank. Or Valencia is in RF. Which means we do have options.
Hope you DON'T stifle, Meathead.
On two counts: (1) You could well be right. In January, we tend to forget what a teamwide slump feels like in the middle of the year. Monday you get shut out on three hits; Tuesday you get 1 run; here we are Wednesday in the 6th without a runner past first, and we're thinking about Dallas Keuchel the next night...
When those moments hit, and the rookie OF's are batting in the .100's, there are a lot of people who will see what you mean Keith.
(2) At SSI we want and need people holding down all colors of the rainbow in the debates. Neh? At my age I tend to forget who wanted Haniger as a Best Bet, and appreciate it when the Fan Club President (SABRMatt on this one) chimes in, in each relevant thread ... we need one guy arguing in perpetuity that Paxton is too big a gamble, a second guy arguing he's one notch shy of Randy Johnson, a third guy insisting on the scout's (moderate) point of view...
You've got ownership of this idea, that the M's are setting themselves up for 10-day offensive doldrums without a bat in RF. You're probably wrong but you should press it. ;- )
I'll take the "over" if people think we're only going to gain 5, 10 runs defensively in RF. Tell you why.
Matt pointed out that the 2016 Mariners had MANY bad defensive outfielders. As it happens, Franklin Gutierrez was injured a lot last year and Fangraphs had him for -5.5 runs in right field alone. That's in 45 full games there. ... Fangraphs doesn't have Seth Smith and Boomstick for many bases lost with the gloves, but: my eyes do. Will cheerfully slot -5 runs in right to Smith and another -5 to Boomstick, relative to what an ordinary OF would have done in Area 51.
I'll assign -15 runs defensively to last year's right fielders, with gusto.
And if Haniger's a center fielder, M's fans should be hoping for +10 runs in Area 51, minimum. Ichiro got +20 runs saved a few times, +15 runs saved routinely. It's a big area.
So you are talking about (1) three terrible defensive RF's last year, (2) a center fielder out there next year, and (3) this being Safeco's right field. Whatever the [MAX] entry is on a corner defensive upgrade, I'd be hoping for that, I think.